Podcast Episode 041: The Resilience Paradox with Dr Brock Bastian




UPDATE: We're back for Season 5 and we have some exiting news! The Potential Psychology Podcast is up for an award. I'll give you the low down in this episode.


My guest for the first episode of this season is Associate Professor Brock Bastian from the University of Melbourne and we're asking the question, 'Are we getting resilience wrong?'

Resilience is a hot topic right now, with programs designed to build resilience featuring on the training schedules of our schools and workplaces. But what do we really know about resilience from a scientific perspective? Can we build it? And how?

In this episode Brock and I explore:

  • What we do and don't know about resilience from a scientific perspective

  • Why we often get resilience wrong

  • Why we need risk and vulnerability to develop our resilience - and our kids' resilience!

  • Resilience as a dynamic and developable process, and

  • How to build a challenge mindset.

About my guest

Brock Bastian is a researcher, a practitioner, and and the author of The Other Side of Happiness: Embracing a More Fearless Approach to Living. His research focuses on issues related to ethics and wellbeing and his passion is connecting the more abstract ideas that he works with in his research to the everyday problems and issues that people and organisations face.

In his practice as a psychologist Brock sees private clients dealing with a range of mental health and wellbeing issues, and in his role as a consultant to organisations he assists with issues related to ethics, wellbeing, and organisational culture.


This is a fascinating, helpful and thought-provoking conversation to kick off Season 5 of the Potential Psychology Podcast! Join me to learn more about the science of resilience.


Brock’s tips for developing a challenge mindset and building resilience

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